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ymrader
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« on: April 25, 2018, 12:59:48 pm »

So there is this poorly child, the parents want his care continued. The nhs says no. Fair enough, its the law and nhs viewpoint.

The kid can be treated elsewhere, the pope dude is involved.

The law courts say he cant travel. Dont agree with this at all.

Surely the british courts and law end at their decision, alternatives must be irrelevant.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2018, 06:36:33 pm »

Point is moot.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2018, 11:02:25 am »

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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2018, 10:11:56 am »

So there is this poorly child, the parents want his care continued. The nhs says no. Fair enough, its the law and nhs viewpoint.

The kid can be treated elsewhere, the pope dude is involved.

The law courts say he cant travel. Dont agree with this at all.

Surely the british courts and law end at their decision, alternatives must be irrelevant.

Was this Alfie?

He was not going to be 'treated elsewhere', he was simpy being taken elsewhere to die in a different way.  Some childrens hospital in Italy, at a cost of tens of thousands of money, was going to slit his throat so he could breathe through the hole and get one of the (many) tubes in him removed. 

The NHS in England wanted to remove all his tubes - which is what happened in the end.

The Pope is an evil bastard who wanted to keep this braindead child breathing, like some kind of body transplant (the child had no remaining brain.)

So that's why you're wrong.

Hi by the way . . . I was out with Red Herring this week and thought I should check in to tell you all why you're wrong about things.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2018, 01:42:19 pm »

Surely the question is not "what was the best course of action?", but "who should have the final say?".

The UK government prevented the parents from doing what they thought was best even though it presented no additional cost to the NHS, and there is no reason think that the alternative would have caused significant additional suffering to the child.

I'm not ready to see that right taken away from parents unless there is an overpowering argument that their decision would cause harm, or if their choice would be so expensive that it would deprive other people of needed medical resources without doing any good.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2018, 03:12:54 pm »

Surely the question is not "what was the best course of action?", but "who should have the final say?".

The UK government prevented the parents from doing what they thought was best even though it presented no additional cost to the NHS, and there is no reason think that the alternative would have caused significant additional suffering to the child.

I'm not ready to see that right taken away from parents unless there is an overpowering argument that their decision would cause harm, or if their choice would be so expensive that it would deprive other people of needed medical resources without doing any good.

Sort of my point..
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2018, 03:14:27 pm »

Was this Alfie?

He was not going to be 'treated elsewhere', he was simpy being taken elsewhere to die in a different way.  Some childrens hospital in Italy, at a cost of tens of thousands of money, was going to slit his throat so he could breathe through the hole and get one of the (many) tubes in him removed. 

The NHS in England wanted to remove all his tubes - which is what happened in the end.

The Pope is an evil bastard who wanted to keep this braindead child breathing, like some kind of body transplant (the child had no remaining brain.)

So that's why you're wrong.

Hi by the way . . . I was out with Red Herring this week and thought I should check in to tell you all why you're wrong about things.

So who's decision should that be ? Parent ? Law ? Nhs ?

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2018, 05:48:29 pm »

So who's decision should that be ? Parent ? Law ? Nhs ?



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