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« on: March 16, 2018, 11:48:55 am »

Looked for a sports board, couldn't find one (I'm currently winning the GWD Fantasy Football league by the way...though the bloke in last place is second).....Sort of inspired by Mark Hughes getting the Southampton job, though inspired isn't the word.

It's often said that 'foreign' managers coming into the Premiership are stunting the growth/progression of young British coaches.

The problem isn't foreign coaches. It's shit home grown ones. If we take ten clubs, and to be fair they are rarely found in the upper echelons of the league, but say:

Fulham
Blackburn
Crystal Palace
Everton
Newcastle
Southampton
Stoke
Sunderland
West Brom
West Ham

Sam Allardyce has managed six of them.
Alan Pardew has managed five of them.
Mark Hughes has managed four of them.
David Moyes has managed three of them.
Roy Hodgson has managed three of them.
Tony Pulis has managed three of them.

24 top jobs taken by six men with a record in mediocrity at best......but it's the 'foreign' coaches that are stopping young managers.

Harrumph.


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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2018, 12:19:13 pm »

Looked for a sports board, couldn't find one (I'm currently winning the GWD Fantasy Football league by the way...though the bloke in last place is second).....Sort of inspired by Mark Hughes getting the Southampton job, though inspired isn't the word.

It's often said that 'foreign' managers coming into the Premiership are stunting the growth/progression of young British coaches.

The problem isn't foreign coaches. It's shit home grown ones. If we take ten clubs, and to be fair they are rarely found in the upper echelons of the league, but say:

Fulham
Blackburn
Crystal Palace
Everton
Newcastle
Southampton
Stoke
Sunderland
West Brom
West Ham

Sam Allardyce has managed six of them.
Alan Pardew has managed five of them.
Mark Hughes has managed four of them.
David Moyes has managed three of them.
Roy Hodgson has managed three of them.
Tony Pulis has managed three of them.

24 top jobs taken by six men with a record in mediocrity at best......but it's the 'foreign' coaches that are stopping young managers.

Harrumph.




Loads of managers in the bundesliga are in their early 40s. Nagelsman is the young poster boy but there are better managers like kovac.

Our sports director is the highest club goal scorer and our manager the most capped. Plus he managed his nation team.

There is the same dross though that just seem to journey from club to club. Some have passed through Hertha for relegation battles.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2018, 12:19:56 pm »

Maybe we should spend a tonne of money developing a really good AI robot coach.

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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2018, 12:21:25 pm »

Loads of managers in the bundesliga are in their early 40s. Nagelsman is the young poster boy but there are better managers like kovac.

Our sports director is the highest club goal scorer and our manager the most capped. Plus he managed his nation team.

There is the same dross though that just seem to journey from club to club. Some have passed through Hertha for relegation battles.

I have a serious man-crush on Klopp and I don't care who knows it.

I think he'd be firm but gentle.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2018, 12:58:05 pm »

I have a serious man-crush on Klopp and I don't care who knows it.

I think he'd be firm but gentle.

He's a proper players manager.

The weird shit is Thomas Tuschel. Like klopp, left Dortmund and disappeared. A really good manager.

The geriatric at Bayern said he liked him... but then they want nagelsmann
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2018, 06:43:44 am »

He's a proper players manager.

The weird shit is Thomas Tuschel. Like klopp, left Dortmund and disappeared. A really good manager.

The geriatric at Bayern said he liked him... but then they want nagelsmann

Kovac is going to manage bayern. Tuschel i think PSG..
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2018, 09:55:45 am »

(I'm currently winning the GWD Fantasy Football league by the way...though the bloke in last place is second)

About time you upped your game after me winning the last 3 seasons in a row  Cool

The problem with the managers is that there's so much cash in the Prem these days, all the diddy wee clubs just want to avoid getting relegated so bring in the boring as fuck old guys who have (mostly) managed to keep clubs in the league but not much else rather than take a risk on somebody. 

The only young managers in the Prem are the foreign ones, which is because the continental clubs give them a chance at a much younger age than here.  Not sure how to solve the problem though.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2018, 03:11:47 pm »

The only young managers in the Prem are the foreign ones, which is because the continental clubs give them a chance at a much younger age than here.  Not sure how to solve the problem though.

There is your solution....
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2018, 03:55:04 pm »

There is your solution....

Would be if you could force clubs to do it, but you can't and they are pretty unlikely to do it themselves - to the hard headed business types running clubs now, the potential losses are too big. 
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2018, 02:35:06 pm »

Would be if you could force clubs to do it, but you can't and they are pretty unlikely to do it themselves - to the hard headed business types running clubs now, the potential losses are too big. 

But german clubs by and large are risk averse...
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