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Mister Fantastic
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« on: October 02, 2017, 06:06:27 am »

Fucking redneck terrorist. Angry

The suspected gunman in the mass shooting at a music festival in Las Vegas has been named as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock.
At least 50 were killed and more than 200 injured at the Route 91 country music event near the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.
It is the deadliest mass shooting in US history, with the death toll surpassing the 49 killed at a nightclub in Orlando in June 2016.
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 06:29:48 am »

Fuck that's horrific. Deepest sympathies to all affected  Sad
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2017, 06:49:14 am »

What!  The last I heard this morning, two people had died and 20 injured.  Bloody hell...
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2017, 09:56:03 am »

So-called Islamic State later claimed to be behind the attack, saying that Paddock had converted to Islam some months ago.

Don't believe that. I don't think half of the terrorist incidents they fess up to have been organized by IS.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2017, 01:18:04 pm »

So-called Islamic State later claimed to be behind the attack, saying that Paddock had converted to Islam some months ago.

Don't believe that. I don't think half of the terrorist incidents they fess up to have been organized by IS.

They're getting desperate.  Some bloke only has to knife someone these days and they claim responsibility.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2017, 02:16:15 pm »

Nothing will change, we'll have the same thread again in a year or two. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2017, 02:24:17 pm »

I fear you are correct.
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Quelor
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2017, 02:28:27 pm »

I fear you are correct.

People are more outraged by peaceful protests of the anthem than they are wanton mass murder...
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 09:51:32 am »

Nothing will change, we'll have the same thread again in a year or two. 

I daresay that's right.

Still, I daresay the same will also be true of deaths in traffic accidents, or suicides, or coronary heart disease, all of which I daresay kill a lot more than gun violence.  All things where we as societies make compromises about balancing risk of harm with other things, like enjoying ourselves.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2017, 10:27:08 am »

I daresay that's right.

Still, I daresay the same will also be true of deaths in traffic accidents, or suicides, or coronary heart disease, all of which I daresay kill a lot more than gun violence.  All things where we as societies make compromises about balancing risk of harm with other things, like enjoying ourselves.

Of course, but automobiles/driving, suicides (which are, I think, technically illegal), and heart disease (at least treatment and medicine) are all heavily regulated.  I'm not sure we could call gun ownership heavily regulated.  And, sure, as a codified right in the Bill of Rights, rather than a privilege, maybe it should be less regulated than those others.   

The resignation comes from, at least for me, all the ass-clowns that a week prior were ardently arguing for stringent public and private repercussions against those who exercised the first right codified in the Bill of Rights. And yet, on this issue, treat it as some sort of zero sum, litmus test, where politicians decide their policy based on an organizations score card. I think I heard some rumblings from the GOP side that bump stocks could be on the table re: control, so there's something, I guess.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 02:10:18 pm »

I daresay that's right.

Still, I daresay the same will also be true of deaths in traffic accidents, or suicides, or coronary heart disease, all of which I daresay kill a lot more than gun violence.  All things where we as societies make compromises about balancing risk of harm with other things, like enjoying ourselves.

Aside from gun deaths are skewed mentally high compared to other western societies in the good old..

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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 02:33:08 pm »

Of course, but automobiles/driving, suicides (which are, I think, technically illegal), and heart disease (at least treatment and medicine) are all heavily regulated.  I'm not sure we could call gun ownership heavily regulated.  And, sure, as a codified right in the Bill of Rights, rather than a privilege, maybe it should be less regulated than those others.    

The resignation comes from, at least for me, all the ass-clowns that a week prior were ardently arguing for stringent public and private repercussions against those who exercised the first right codified in the Bill of Rights. And yet, on this issue, treat it as some sort of zero sum, litmus test, where politicians decide their policy based on an organizations score card. I think I heard some rumblings from the GOP side that bump stocks could be on the table re: control, so there's something, I guess.

What's the solution ? Merkins got a man on the moon.....
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2017, 02:43:58 pm »

Horrific,deepest sympathy.
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2017, 09:52:03 pm »

What's the solution ? Merkins got a man on the moon.....

I don't know.  I've taken advantage of my white, male, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, CIS privilege and disengaged to my acre in Connecticut.  I'm strictly local.  
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