Remoaners’ dream of a second referendum ‘is stone dead’ thanks to EU’s arrogance

[ymrader]

I have to say, I find it hard to believe, Rader.  I rather think my brother and sister in law were surprised at what people were saying (admittedly not the entire nation, but the fact that anyone is voicing doubts about Germany's future is surprising) but I'm telling the truth.  This is what my bro told me.

Are they old AfD voters ?

The only problems I can see are the motor industry is going to have to change pretty sharpish. A think tank reckons the workforce  will be shy of 3m skilled workers by 2020. So they will have to have immigration regardless of how some elements perceive it. Germany industrial protectionism doesn't help much either.

Germany has never been as prosperous and hasn't kicked off for decades.

[Mister Fantastic]

Are they old AfD voters ?

The only problems I can see are the motor industry is going to have to change pretty sharpish. A think tank reckons the workforce  will be shy of 3m skilled workers by 2020. So they will have to have immigration regardless of how some elements perceive it. Germany industrial protectionism doesn't help much either.

Germany has never been as prosperous and hasn't kicked off for decades.

That's right Ym, they criticize Germany so they must be Nazi skinheads.

Shame on you Ev.

[everso]

Are they old AfD voters ?

No I don't think they're old. My sis in law is 51 and these people are friends and cousins I believe, so middle aged.  I've never thought of my sis in law as right wing either, but of course I can't speak for these other people as I don't know them. 

[ben wedge]

Don't know enough about Germany to comment, but I have heard stories of worsening conditions - even for skilled workers - by way of short term contracts etc as a result of some changes to social welfare 5 or 6 years ago. Apparently it cut unemployment by creating low paid jobs (rather like we did) but this is now rippling up to affect skilled workers too

Deloitte have just completed a report forecasting a drastic fall in sales for German vehicles and a loss of 180,000 jobs as aresult of ongoing emissions and cartel investigations as well as Brexit

OE are also pointing out that EU members are answerable to their own electorate for likely export losses in their respective countries resulting from decisions made by the EU - which do not always benefit member states

[ymrader]

That's right Ym, they criticize Germany so they must be Nazi skinheads.

Shame on you Ev.

The AfD are nazi skinheads?

[ymrader]

Don't know enough about Germany to comment, but I have heard stories of worsening conditions - even for skilled workers - by way of short term contracts etc as a result of some changes to social welfare 5 or 6 years ago. Apparently it cut unemployment by creating low paid jobs (rather like we did) but this is now rippling up to affect skilled workers too

Deloitte have just completed a report forecasting a drastic fall in sales for German vehicles and a loss of 180,000 jobs as aresult of ongoing emissions and cartel investigations as well as Brexit

OE are also pointing out that EU members are answerable to their own electorate for likely export losses in their respective countries resulting from decisions made by the EU - which do not always benefit member states

Trade unions sit on company boards. How therefore are conditions worsening ?