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 11 
 on: Today at 02:23:45 am 
Started by Myky D - Last post by Dutch Rosie
Bit harsh.

Poor buggers want a better life. The EU has its own trouble. Fortunately most of them drown in the med.

Yes, the law is harsh on family members, who always suffer for the crimes of their relatives.

I know the poor buggers just want a better life, but illegal immigration is not the answer. My Gambian friend's son ran away to Libya with a friend, thinking he could easily cross to Europe. His friend was murdered and he narrowly escaped the same fate.

 12 
 on: Today at 02:18:58 am 
Started by Myky D - Last post by Dutch Rosie
Incorrect. Intention does not enter into it. The authorities are professional bodies. The process myst be fully thought-out abd without error.

Then why did  you bring intention into it in your post:

"Ok - so if you knowingly break the law, you deserve everything you get, including harm done to imminent parties that know you, in order to punish you?"

 13 
 on: Today at 01:49:17 am 
Started by Myky D - Last post by Myky D
"Ok - so if you knowingly break the law, you deserve everything you get, including harm done to imminent parties that know you, in order to punish you?"

Talk about putting words into the mouths of others!

It is of course not the intention of the authorities to punish children because of their associations with criminals nor to do so with the intention of punishing the criminals themselves. It is merely a consequence of parents breaking the law.

Incorrect. Intention does not enter into it. The authorities are professional bodies. The process myst be fully thought-out abd without error.

 14 
 on: Yesterday at 04:01:16 pm 
Started by Myky D - Last post by ymrader
"Ok - so if you knowingly break the law, you deserve everything you get, including harm done to imminent parties that know you, in order to punish you?"

Talk about putting words into the mouths of others!

It is of course not the intention of the authorities to punish children because of their associations with criminals nor to do so with the intention of punishing the criminals themselves. It is merely a consequence of parents breaking the law.

Bit harsh.

Poor buggers want a better life. The EU has its own trouble. Fortunately most of them drown in the med.

 15 
 on: Yesterday at 01:02:23 pm 
Started by Myky D - Last post by Dutch Rosie
"Ok - so if you knowingly break the law, you deserve everything you get, including harm done to imminent parties that know you, in order to punish you?"

Talk about putting words into the mouths of others!

It is of course not the intention of the authorities to punish children because of their associations with criminals nor to do so with the intention of punishing the criminals themselves. It is merely a consequence of parents breaking the law.

 16 
 on: Yesterday at 04:41:40 am 
Started by Myky D - Last post by Dutch Rosie
Ok - so if you knowingly break the law, you deserve everything you get, including harm done to imminent parties that know you, in order to punish you?

The sins of the fathers visited upon their sons.

Biblical; brutal but righteous.

Something about leaving the whole world blind.

If you break the law, you know what the consequences can be. Our prisons are full of criminals who have lost their children (albeit usually temporarily), but nobody is screaming about immoral decisions.

What alternatives do you suggest? Not putting the parents in jail, or putting little children in jail with them?

 17 
 on: Yesterday at 04:06:27 am 
Started by Myky D - Last post by Myky D
A parent would be negligent not to try and get into the US, or somewhere else that is relatively safe (minus the Trump administration's mechanizations).

Sure.

Would you agree that the parents bring this on the children, through trying to cross illegally?

 18 
 on: Yesterday at 04:04:42 am 
Started by Myky D - Last post by Myky D
Yes, of course.

Ok - so if you knowingly break the law, you deserve everything you get, including harm done to imminent parties that know you, in order to punish you?

The sins of the fathers visited upon their sons.

Biblical; brutal but righteous.

Something about leaving the whole world blind.

 19 
 on: Yesterday at 03:11:56 am 
Started by Myky D - Last post by Dutch Rosie
In most cases they are in danger of dying at the hands of an abusive husband or ruthless gangs.

There are enough of those in the country they are trying to enter illegally.

If you break the law, you know what the consequences can be. Our prisons are full of criminals who have lost their children (albeit usually temporarily), but nobody is screaming about immoral decisions.

 20 
 on: June 16, 2018, 01:17:10 pm 
Started by Myky D - Last post by drippinhun
Would you agree that the parents bring this on the children, through trying to cross illegally?

A parent would be negligent not to try and get into the US, or somewhere else that is relatively safe (minus the Trump administration's mechanizations).

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