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 11 
 on: Yesterday at 09:28:08 am 
Started by vladimir - Last post by What Larks
I didn't feel the need to have htem and neither did Mr Lark.  An older and wise woman (and a mother) told me maternal and patenral urges were nature's trick.  Of course anyone who really loves children as children can adopt or foster; no need to add to the world population.

 12 
 on: Yesterday at 09:26:11 am 
Started by Suheil - Last post by What Larks
Of course if Che were to be writing his equivalent of Revelations it would be a Marxist version to ensure atheists as screwed up everyone else.

 13 
 on: Yesterday at 09:20:22 am 
Started by ymrader - Last post by vladimir

A racist protesting against racism ? Is that what you are suggesting ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbDqiZoZzUM

 14 
 on: Yesterday at 09:18:30 am 
Started by vladimir - Last post by vladimir
I have kids.  I love my kids.  The only reason I had them though was out of selfishness.  My ex wife wanted kids and did everything she could to make me feel like a failure for not being a father until I gave in and we had kids.  I love them and I will always love them but if I had a little more self respect I would have never been in that particular relationship and given a choice I would never have had kids.

Why do we feel the need to keep dragging out the existence of humanity?  What does it matter?  Barring some shocking paradigm shift in medical technology, it is highly unlikely any one of us on this board will be around in 50 years.  The more I learn about humans as I continue to exist, the less I like about them.  People in general are selfish, violent and hurtful.  The few people who have money and/or power throughout history have sent those without either off to fight and/or die to amass more money and/or power.  We could easily put a stop to ALL human suffering just by not making any more.  Why do we feel the need to keep it going?

 15 
 on: Yesterday at 08:57:18 am 
Started by everso - Last post by ymrader
It's not just NHS costs though. Even in the unlikely event that Mrs. Y makes it to 100 without needing a hip replacement, cataracts removed etc. etc she will still have drawn a state pension for 30 years longer than Mr. X without putting much back in.

Obviously clean living doesn't make you immune to dementia, hip replacements, cataracts etc. etc. Nor does it immunise you against cancer. Maybe Mrs. Y dies of a heart attack, but maybe she gets cancer (cancer risk increases dramatically with age), and she has to get the same treatment as Mr. X but much later in life. Equally, maybe Mr. X gets taken down by a massive heartache after downing his third bottle of whiskey and not only saves the NHS on treatment, but has contributed much more to the NHS through all the tax he has paid on Scotch.

Red

It's not the users crippling the NHS.

 16 
 on: Yesterday at 08:56:17 am 
Started by ymrader - Last post by ymrader
And all those people 'taking a knee', none of them is possibly racist? 


A racist protesting against racism ? Is that what you are suggesting ?

 17 
 on: Yesterday at 08:11:51 am 
Started by everso - Last post by Red Herring
I'm not sure you're right about that Red, although it has that contrarian ring of truth.

I can't be bothered to look up the exact figure, but I've read that for the average person, a surprisingly high percentage of health care costs are incurred in the last weeks life. Clean living Mrs. Y, who perhaps goes to her local surgery three times a year for sniffles and then dies unexpectedly of heart failure at 100, is by no means necessarily more expensive to the NHS than Mr. X, who has three lung lobectomies and then spends two months on an inhaler in intensive care before dying.

It's not just NHS costs though. Even in the unlikely event that Mrs. Y makes it to 100 without needing a hip replacement, cataracts removed etc. etc she will still have drawn a state pension for 30 years longer than Mr. X without putting much back in.

Obviously clean living doesn't make you immune to dementia, hip replacements, cataracts etc. etc. Nor does it immunise you against cancer. Maybe Mrs. Y dies of a heart attack, but maybe she gets cancer (cancer risk increases dramatically with age), and she has to get the same treatment as Mr. X but much later in life. Equally, maybe Mr. X gets taken down by a massive heartache after downing his third bottle of whiskey and not only saves the NHS on treatment, but has contributed much more to the NHS through all the tax he has paid on Scotch.

Red

 18 
 on: Yesterday at 07:57:39 am 
Started by Suheil - Last post by Weyland
Why not mention them?  They are all just books written by men.

We're all -- Jews, Christians, Muslims -- the People of the Book. Christians just added to the existing Jewish version and Islam added to the resultant fictional anthology. All made up by males, as you say, unless you believe in the One True God and/or Angels, whose sex seems to be indeterminate. Or not?

Probably one of the better features of the Church of Rome is that there's no particular emphasis or expectation of Bible reading. At least at neither of the Catholic schools I attended. I do keep a Bible, as it happens, for historical and cultural purposes. Douai version, of course,

 19 
 on: Yesterday at 07:25:18 am 
Started by Suheil - Last post by everso
Some might say the whole Bible fits that description. Not to mention some other holy books I'm not mentioning.  Cool

Why not mention them?  They are all just books written by men.

 20 
 on: Yesterday at 07:23:39 am 
Started by ymrader - Last post by everso
Some of them, yes.

And all those people 'taking a knee', none of them is possibly racist? 

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