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 11 
 on: April 17, 2018, 06:39:30 pm 
Started by Red Herring - Last post by TGK
I didnt say that, you did.

What I said is an aging population places stress on the NHS, the gov will not say this as their core voter tends to be just that.

How much do you think a 25 yr old costs the NHS vs an 86 yr old ?
How many people lived to 86 when the NHS was formed ?
How many people will live to 86 in 50yrs time ?

Making cuts to the NHS will not lessen the pressure on service delivery


This is a direct quote from you....

"The problem is not solely the patients.

Pfis, outsourcing, austerity and brexit in the mixer.

The big problem is people are living too long and the ponzi scheme is creaking. The Tories will never admit that the problem is their core voter."

Riiiigggghhttt. I said it. You didn't at all allude to, or make snide reference to, that the 'problem' is old people who may or may not vote Tory not dying. You 100% did not do that, there is no way that anyone could possibly join up those dots.

I'd refer you back to all my other comments, the success of the NHS is keeping people alive, it's mildly or actually perverse to call that 'the problem'.

 12 
 on: April 17, 2018, 10:05:50 am 
Started by Mr Angry - Last post by vladimir
Personally, I'd  ask your wife to call her sister and ask (as if you had nothing to do with the prompt) "Did you intentionally get my predominately bald husband shampoo as a birthday gift?" allowing your sister-in-law the opportunity to say, "Oops!  That was meant for my friend who possesses a full head of hair" or alternatively, "Yes.  I hate your husband but I thought this was subtle enough to be upsetting and confusing all at the same time."

More importantly, because it is your wife simply asking her own sister for confirmation, it doesn't look like you being ungrateful.   

 13 
 on: April 16, 2018, 05:41:17 am 
Started by Staffordshire Knot - Last post by Weyland
Fanny was deliberately antagonising me to be banned. He was warned.

That is true. And not just the once. He's been doing the same old shite since I joined up in 2011 (I think).

Very few people have been banned since then. Five, I think, three of them by Kolamba, long since gone.

 14 
 on: April 16, 2018, 05:10:54 am 
Started by Red Herring - Last post by Mr Angry
To suggest that an ageing population is the biggest stress on the NHS is an oversimplification in my view.  The biggest issue is that the NHS provides care far beyond what was possible when it was founded.  I can remember when MRI scanners could be counted on your thumbs, when heart transplants always made the headlines, when a hip replacement was science fiction.  These things and so much more are routine now, but still bloody expensive.  People expect them, demand them, but are reluctant to accept that if they want them to continue, while the NHS also continues to provide GPs, dentists, maternity services,  nursing care and all the other services it was set up to provide, they are going to have to pay more in tax, or pay for private medical insurance.  I would prefer more tax, I could afford to go private but would rather pay that extra into the general pot so everyone benefits, not just me and some revolting insurancemonger.

 15 
 on: April 16, 2018, 04:44:24 am 
Started by Staffordshire Knot - Last post by ymrader
That's not at all sinister.

Remember 'Lou Knee'? Now the clue may have been in the name, but I'd log in specifically to argue with him. He was mental, but he had an opinion.

Mr F. fell or falls in to that category.

I've said it before, but I used to be regarded as a 'lefty' on this board, I now find myself as the dissenting opinion. It's weird. If this is truly a 'Great World Debate' then let everyone post.

How offended is anyone by what any keyboard warrior actually types? Is it so offensive it needs to be banned for life?

The board is very quiet, and to be fair it seems to be because everyone agrees with each other, which means it isn't really a debate aside from people who like each other saying 'this is where I'm going on holiday'.



Fanny was deliberately antagonising me to be banned. He was warned.

I was going to can this place but I keep it going out of respect to AZL.

 16 
 on: April 16, 2018, 04:41:34 am 
Started by Red Herring - Last post by ymrader
I do have a problem with you saying, and you did a bit, that the problem with the health service is elderly Tory voters not dying like they used to, which is pretty fucking cold no matter which way you dress it up.

I didnt say that, you did.

What I said is an aging population places stress on the NHS, the gov will not say this as their core voter tends to be just that.

How much do you think a 25 yr old costs the NHS vs an 86 yr old ?
How many people lived to 86 when the NHS was formed ?
How many people will live to 86 in 50yrs time ?

Making cuts to the NHS will not lessen the pressure on service delivery

 17 
 on: April 16, 2018, 04:36:27 am 
Started by Red Herring - Last post by ymrader
Only you can say why you brought Brexit, austerity and outsourcing into it, but it feels a bit scattergun if we're being honest.

Because I used to work in NHS audit  Cool

 18 
 on: April 16, 2018, 04:34:22 am 
Started by ymrader - Last post by ymrader
Because we don't live in Disneyland.

Are you advocating bombing Russia?

BoJo the clown said they were responsible for the dude in Salisbury.

So morally we have to bomb their chemical facilities.

Anything less would be hypocritical

 19 
 on: April 16, 2018, 03:24:51 am 
Started by ymrader - Last post by Mr Angry
I would not be surprised if the rebels have been supplied chemical weapons all along by the CIA in order to create a false flag operation.
I would, if only because the CIA have been in the game long enough to know that sort of shit always blows up in their faces.

 20 
 on: April 16, 2018, 03:20:50 am 
Started by Staffordshire Knot - Last post by Mr Angry
That's not at all sinister.

Remember 'Lou Knee'? Now the clue may have been in the name, but I'd log in specifically to argue with him. He was mental, but he had an opinion.

Mr F. fell or falls in to that category.

I've said it before, but I used to be regarded as a 'lefty' on this board, I now find myself as the dissenting opinion. It's weird. If this is truly a 'Great World Debate' then let everyone post.

How offended is anyone by what any keyboard warrior actually types? Is it so offensive it needs to be banned for life?

The board is very quiet, and to be fair it seems to be because everyone agrees with each other, which means it isn't really a debate aside from people who like each other saying 'this is where I'm going on holiday'.


I agree too, mostly.  But only mostly.  Lou was opinionated and sometimes offensive but I always thought his opinions were genuine, if spiced up a little for dramatic effect.  Mr F never really rings true, I suspect he deliberately selected "opinions" that people would find objectionable,, purely for spite.  He also tended to spam the board with endless deliberately offensive drivel meaning genuine debate often got drowned out.   I don't really miss him, but I wasn't for banning either.  Not my board though.

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